Tuesday, July 29, 2008

Manny To Mets Still Viable?

Updated 11:50 am- According to Gotham Baseball Magazine, one potential replacement for manny could be Pittsburgh's Jason Bay. The Pirates would want minor league catcher George Kottaras in a package for Bay, the Red Sox would want Mets phenom Fernando Martinez. Yet another win, win, win (except for the Mets farm system, yeesh). Also, Bay would be under Red Sox control until after next year.

11:10 am-According to the Newark Star-Ledger, the Mets have contacted the Red Sox about disgruntled slugger Manny Ramirez, as it appears Omar Minaya wants him more than Mets management. I have no clue what the Mets could offer at this point(maybe Fernando Martinez), but Ramirez in a lineup with Wright and a red-hot Delgado couldn't hurt. On the flip side, the Mets can also pick up his option for next season at 20 mil if they decide to keep him, so this would not have to be a rent-a-player philosophy. If the Red Sox do trade Man-Ram, I also wonder if that puts them back in the Teixeira race, and moves Kevin Youkilis to left field. If the Red Sox talk to Atlanta, and say figure out what the Braves might want from the Mets farm system, they could take the Manny haul and turn that into Teixeira. If Big Tex leaves at the end of the year, the Red Sox are compensated with 2 #1 picks in next years draft, and a farm system as deep as the Red Sox can afford that kind of turnover. If the Red Sox are serious about being done with Manny, and want to stop taking years off of Terry Francona's life, they need to move this guy within the next 48 hours. Keep in mind though, if something changes withing the next couple of weeks, the Red Sox could conceivably trade Manny next month during the waiver-deadline, because I find it unlikely someone will claim him on waivers. Maybe Ted Thompson could trade Brett Favre for Manny?

13 comments:

Milwaukee's Ice said...

But who are they going to get? Between all of their signings, the Milledge deal, the Santana deal, what does the Mets farm system look like?

I would like to see Manny out of Boston, but I don't want that to happen at the expense of a playoff spot.

Central Maine Sports Blog said...

Right, which is why I layed out the scenario of Teixeira replacing Manny's bat. The Red Sox can rid theselves of this guy and still go for the ring and keep farm system damage to a minimum.

Milwaukee's Ice said...

I think that is a little too optimistic....as I noted previously, the Angels are eyeing Teixeira too, and with teams going back to the ways of rental players, bidding could get out fo hand.

The part that makes that sort of manuevering improibable IMO is Theo would have to pull off two blockbuster deals in a matter of 48 hours....would be nice, but doubtful.

Central Maine Sports Blog said...

If you make one deal contingent on the other one being made, it can be done. Do you really think the Angels are going to trade prospects after all these years of not doing it? They won't give up Kotchman and the Braves will insist on him. You can't tell me the Braves don't have an idea about what they might like from the Mets farm system. It's not really as complicated as it sounds. I am also sure Youkilis would move to left without any issues. It's a rare deal where evryone wins...

Milwaukee's Ice said...

But the Braves will also insist upon Youkilis if they insist upon Kotchman...the D Backs are also players in all of this, although Connor Jackson is the hold up there. The deal "could" get done.

The Braves want major league talent, so the Mets do not have much to offer in that sense (meaning Boston will have to fork over someone on the roster). As for the Angels, absolutely they will deal....K Rod could be gone after this year, the outfield is old, their window is closing. Also, the Angels will be shedding roughly $12 million if they do not bring back Anderson, meaning they could re-sign him....all the more reason to make the deal.

Central Maine Sports Blog said...

It would make sense for the Angels to go after him(Teixeira), but they won't, they love their prospects too much.

Now if the Red Sox do option 2, which would be trade Manny to the Mets and then replace him with Jason Bay, plus get Fernando Martinez in the minor league system, you get to keep Youkilis. Remember, Bay is under team control for another year, so you aren't renting anyone...

Milwaukee's Ice said...

I like the second deal better if only because you are not shifting players around....getting a top flight prospect is always a bonus, but Bay is a solid bat, younger and better defensively....I would be all for that deal.

Anonymous said...

Manny will never accept a trade (remember he's a 10-5 player) without assurances that the options WILL NOT be picked up. I think your assumption that a team who trades for him will have those options is incorrect.

Central Maine Sports Blog said...

I know he's a 10-5 guy, but I don't think he wants to be in Boston anymore. I honestly don't think anyone will have to pick up his option to acquire him. I may be wrong, I am not the knower of all, but Manny wants out...

Central Maine Sports Blog said...

Actually the EXACT opposite is true, Manny will approve any deal as long as he gets a guarantee that the club he is traded to does NOT pick up his option. He wants another big deal in free agency instead. Peter Gammons mentioned that on a radio interview I just heard. Thanks for reading and commenting though, you made a great point.

Milwaukee's Ice said...

Sadly, manny will probably receive a deal from someone....look at the money Hunter, Jones, Drew and others have received over the past couple of offseasons.

Central Maine Sports Blog said...

Good job Angels

Anonymous said...

That is what I said - (Look at my "all caps" WILL NOT)

He WILL NOT accept a trade unless he has assurances that the options WILL NOT be picked up.

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